Tom welcomes back Nate for his second ConvoCast! They talk about criss-crossing walkers on the street during this pandemic, Tom’s ever-changing facial hair, the creative magic of TikTok, and Nate’s newfound passion for liturgy. The guys also devote a healthy few minutes to their beloved reality show of 40 seasons: Survivor.

Join us these next few weeks during the coronavirus pandemic for more 20-minute bite-sized conversations with members of the YOB and “YOB-adjacent” community. We hope these little episodes bring you even a dash of joy.

Remember: you are not alone! Even the sparrow stays at home.